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Yo peeps, here's a thread for those who neither speak nor fully understand italian;

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Cut me some slack, work in progress...

So, what's this "Online Career" I've been blabbing about...



The "Online Career" (aka Carriera Online) is a special competition held by the italian site I help running, SWOSIT (www.swosit.com).

The tournament started out as an "italian-only" thing during the development of the Online Career website (which took roughly 6 years since there were only like 3-4 people working on it at any given time), mainly due to the language barrier (the site was originally developed in italian for obvious reasons).

Currently registration for foreigners (as in, non-italian players) is possible (since anybody is welcome to play with us, really) but not official because we have yet to finish translating the website. We're working on it though.

Nonetheless we've had quite a few non-italian players over the past few years (off the top of my head: Akira, Rijntje, HeinAir, Nestoroide, etc.) and they all did just fine (I personally gave them a thorough overview on the site features, then proceeded to translate the ruleset and the most relevant stuff and helped them here and there when they weren't sure about something, site is extremely user-friendly and there's very little text so anyone could get used to it in well under a day).

Ever since the website was completed we've been debating about going international (although the "ping issue" is still strongly debated within the community because some participants aren't particularly fond of playing at pings higher than 80-90 ms, my recent experience in ASL however tells me that, on average, most people out there got good-to-awesome connections so that's sort of a moot point) and since the feedback from the first few foreign players in S 10~14 turned out to be good we've finally decided to open up the gates to players from all over Europe (as a matter of fact, there's gonna be a spanish player in season 15) so if you guys want to join us please contact me either here, on the chat or on the SWOSIT forums and I'll make sure to give you the warmest welcome!.

Here's the Online Career mode, in a nutshell:

Who hasn't been wanting to play SWOS Career mode with their mates?

Yeah, that's pretty much what prompted me and my friends to start on the development of a website that would allow us to enjoy SWOS Careers in a multiplayer online environment (paired up with an editor to modify the teams data).

6 years and an undefined number of lunch breaks and white nights devoted to designing, coding (on a very amateurish level, although our Career mode's leaps and bounds better than FIFA's ultimate team bullshit, FIFA own career mode and most fantasy football sites, real talk) and testing later here's what we got:

(There's a promo video but I haven't had the time to dub it in english yet, so glance at it and then read the following translation)

PROMO VIDEO:




(rough) TRANSLATION (of what I'm saying in the aforementioned promo video):

Have you ever dreamed of playing the legendary SWOS "Career" mode with your friends? Now you can!

Thanks to the efforts of the SWOSIT crew, those who used to love this timeless classic back in the days will now be able to experience again the awesome gameplay of the original Sensible World of Soccer "Careers", with a modern twist.

- Meet up with tons of oldschool SWOS-fans from all over the peninsula europe;

- Create your own team (pick name, crest color and style of the kits, coach, home stadium, formation, shirt numbers and much more...who are you going to hand the legendary shirt number 10 to!?);

- Take part in a live, Fantasy Football-style transfer market featuring contracts, loans and real time auctions for the players, choosing from a database comprised of over 8000 authentic players from the most important leagues in the world, updated to the "13/"14 season;

- Bring back to life your childhood heroes in digitalized, pixellated form thanks to a special editor;

- Manage every aspect of your team from anywhere through the internet browser but be careful not to go overboard with finances (revenues, expenditures, wages, competitions prize money, it's all in there) or else your club will go belly up along with your ambitions of being a hero among goalscoring superstars!

- Play your league and cup games online with either the "SWOSIT SWOS-pack" (which includes the game, the netplay and the Amiga emulator for PC - all the downloads are 100% legal and somehow allowed/endorsed by those who owns the rights to the franchise and, supposedly, by Jon Hare himself) or the "AMIGA SWOS Total Pack" by Starwindz;

- Keep track of players' and teams stats (caps, bookings, injuries, fixtures, starting 11's and so forth), league/cup tables, top-goalscorers lists and matches reports on the site (all of which gets updated in real-time!)

- It's 100% free! By SWOS fans to SWOS fans!

- the SWOS Online Career database is included in the AMIGA SWOS Total Pack!

- Preparations for the 15th Season however are underway (should start around the 22nd of April)!

Here's the thread to sign up (please do so before the 21st of April because we need some time to sort the divisions up), just post the name of your club (16 characters tops, spaces included) and you're good to go (later on you can also provide an image 100x100 pixel, .png format, to act as a crest):








See ya on the pixellated pitch, folks!

The schedule is extremely flexible because we've always wanted the tournament to be pretty laid back.

Each season is split in 4 sessions:

- 1st = 1 week of transfer market, so everyone gets plenty of time to strnghten/build up his own team (teams carry over to the following seasons as long as you can keep paying wages and stuff, I've had my team for 12 seasons straight now and it's progressively gotten better overtime);
- 2nd = 15~20 days (depends on how large divisions turn out to be) to play all of your opponents once in whatever order you prefer (usually it's like, 9 to 14 matches, depending on how many players we stuff in each division, cups fixtures, etc.), just get on the chat or leave your availability on the forums and arrange the details with them if needed be (same things as ss.de leagues);
- 3rd = 15~20 days (depends on how large divisions turn out to be) to play all of your opponents for the second time in whatever order you prefer (usually it's like, 9 to 14 matches, depending on how many players we stuff in each division, cups fixtures, etc.)
- 4th 1 week for Federation Cup QF/SF/F (it's just 1 leg each with extra time and penalties), Elite Cup SF/F (likewise) and promotion/relegation playoffs.

Then there's like 1 week break and the new season starts (unless it's summertime/xmas, then we take longer breaks and play the Summer/Winter series meanwhile - there won't be any Winter Series this December though, we'll just play a longer season).

In between sessions the hdf is updated, this way if you bought/sold some players or made some changes to your team tactic/kits/custom players/etc. you'll get those in the game in the next session.



All the clubs in the Online Career are controlled by humans, right as of now we got just 1st and 2nd division, back in the days we used to have 3rd and 4th tier too, hopefully we'll get to that point again sometimes in the near future.



Yes, your club can indeed go under. "Bilancio societario" is like "Club Business/Bank Statement" in the single player Career, a simple balance of your revenues and expenditures.

Wages depend on the players skills, the higher the skill points total, the bigger the price, the costier the yearly wage.

Money are gained by winning or drawing matches and prizes are also distributed at the end of the season depending on the club performances (like, you get 10 millions for winning the title, 20 for being promoted to 1st division, 7 for avoiding relegation in Serie A, etc.).

Being in the red at the end of the current season means getting penalized the following one (usually minus x points in the league table, where x depends on the extent of your debt).



They can only get injured during matches, people didn't think injuries carrying over would've been practical so we scrapped the feature.



You can't use existing names. The maximum amount of customizable players is 3 (regardless of whether you created them or purchased existing custom players from another club) and names are linked to ID numbers (and thus are unique to the specific players).

That being said, there's certainly ways around that...like, we got Lavezzi, Hamsik and Cavani in the database from Synchro's update however that didn't stop one of the participants from naming his 3 custom players Pocho, Marekiaro and Matador, know what I'm sayin?

You can make offers to other clubs for any player (custom or not, full-purchase or loan for x number of sessions) then it's up to the owner, they could either accept or flat out refuse or ask for more (either money, another player, etc.)



Database is a modded Synchro 13/14 update (we manually edited like 5-600 players from the original and then added some for authenticity sake and also to add variety).



It isn't necessary, the Online Career relies on a completely different website, you'll get your profile and club on there (linked to the forum one, so it's just one log-in all around) as soon as we start fleshing out the new season.

Nowadays Sensionline is mainly used for tournaments with 96/97 stock teams, such as this one; we organize them too (although not as frequently as we used to, traditionally there's always been like 3-4 main "events" per year then some extemporaneous stuff here and there) but they have nothing to do with the Online Career.

Online Career matches do not count towards the Sensibleita ranking either.



Correct, budget is fixed depending on the division you're starting from (1st = 90 millions, 2nd = 70, etc.), new players always start from the bottom. Teams do not get deleted at the end of the season and rosters carry over to the following seasons, I've had my team for 12 seasons now.



When you start off your roster is empty, gotta fill it up with the budget you're given upon starting a new club.



Online Career website has a built-in search feature reminiscent of the one in the single player SWOS 96/97 Careers, except it'll also show all of the skill values for each player, price and yearly wage.

You can also purchase players from existing clubs (or get them on loan).



When you make an offer for a free player (free agent) an auction starts and whoever's gotten the highest bid at the end of the 24 hours period gets to sign the player. You can see other clubs' ongoing auctions and bid on them as well if you see fit.

When you make an offer for a player who's already under contract at another club the club owner will be notified and then given the choice to either accept or refuse (they might also contact you via chat or forums to ask for more money or other players in exchange).



Transfer market is always open but the hdf gets update only 3 times per season which means that whatever change you made to your team will show up in game only after the following update.



Precisely, it's like playing FR or OOO online, just you'll be using the Online Career teams instead. Only difference I can think of is that we play with 5 minutes halves instead of 3 and that you'll also be asked by the website to submit goalscorers (top 3 goalscorers for each league get some prize money at the end of the season). You can also enter bookings and substitutions, .krecs, videos and comments if you feel inclined.



Right as of now there's 44 people signed up, so we'll have Serie A, Serie B and Serie C1 A. We might open Serie C2 too if we reach 50 or more players before the 10th of September As a new player you'd start from the lowest tier.



It's generally 2 months long.
We also take breaks in between seasons (like, during the summer) and you won't see more than 4-5 seasons per year.



There's no schedule (you play your matches in whatever order you prefer and whenever you want), except that you get 2-3 weeks to play all of your 1st leg matches and then 2-3 more weeks to play the 2nd leg matches (and then 1 week to play the cups QF/SF/F if you make it that far), you can't play 2 matches against the same opponent right away.



There's a website, you can see it in the video embedded above, I'd link it (in fact, here it is: www.swosit.com/manager/index.php) but you wouldn't be able to navigate it unless you had a club (we create the new clubs and give full access to new players like a few days before the new season lifts off).

Here's another video walkthrough of the Online Career website main features, it's in italian though:


Either the Swosit forums or chat (#sensible.net on quakenet server, just type /join sensibleita when you're in the #sensible chat)...or both.

The chat is also available at the link: webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=sensible.net



www.swosit.com/manager/index.php

Won't get to see the statistics until you have your own club though.



We've had a bunch of non-italian players in the past few seasons and they all did great (Akira was german, too, Nestoroide and Milanista from ss.de play too and Rijntje played 2 seasons as well) so you'd be more than welcome (we all speak english anyway and I'm always available to translate/explain stuff anyway.



on the 15th of September (approximately) Session 0 will switch to Session 1 and we will start to play.


*The following question refers to Season 15
Kinda, 1st leg matches will be played between the 29th of April and the 15th of May (roughly). 2nd leg...probably between the 16th and the 1st of July, something like that. Deadlines aren't set in stone yet though, depends on how many players we get. There's plenty of time, that's for sure, more time that you'd normally get in a regular monthly ss.de season.

Cups are spread across the whole season, the faster we play them, the earliest the admins will open up the other rounds.



Sign ups closes on the 10th of September (approximately). Then you have 1 week to build your team, if that's what you meant.



14 for Serie A, 14 for Serie B 14 for Serie C .
That being said, new players are never enough.



Both things work, it's just like arranging matches on the ss.de chat for your national league/ASL/Eurocups/etc., really, just get on there and ask if anyone's willing to play, some people you might need to send PM's to arrange a date and time; posting your availability/schedule on the forums also helps speeding up things.



Score sheet has to be confirmed by your opponent so it's basically lying-proof, thus there's no need for screenshots (You can still upload them though if you see fit, they make scoreboards more colorful, if anything ).



They're not available through auctions like free agents however you can still make offers for them even if they're owned by another club (then it's up to the club owner whether to accept your offer or not).

Also, with 10000+ players and 45-50 teams there's plenty of choice for everyone really, just find another player with similar skills and you're set (lots of players have clones and only a handful are truly unique). Clubs quit/go bankrupt and get disbanded/can't afford players and discharge them all the time too so it's very unlikely for a player to spend more than 2-3 seasons in a club.
* Should new members dramatically increase we will add more national leagues.
(Btw: Belgiam, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Colombian, Swiss, Chinese and Greek leagues have been recently added)


SWOSIT pack is more or less 96/97 original database + Online Career teams from Serie A and B right now, so, unless you tested exclusively with SSITA > CAREER teams then yeah

Here's the full database (mediafire download on top): <link to come at a later date>



2 GK are mandatory (that's a hardcoded SWOS requirement)...which is why we all pick dirt-cheap reserve goalies to save money.



That's what I did in my very first season, I had 11 decent players and 5 super-ultra-cheap reserves, sucks when you get someone in the starting 11 injured during the match but pays off in the long run.



They're not.

Developing an effective custom tactic is an extremely time-consuming, trial-and-error process and people just didn't want to put up with such a hassle so they vetoed the feature (not to mention, some people just wouldn't have enough time to devote to such a task, which would make them unfair to some extent).

Also, custom tactics IMHO detract from the experience by temporarily throwing off a perfectly balanced gameplay through gimmicky positioning. Sure, I could put 100 hours into developing the end-be-all perfect tactic, would it be fun for anyone involved though? Think not, so screw those



League games = doesn't matter

Cup matches = single fixture DIY cups with extra time and penalties

Also, home team gets to pick the pitch surface.



Sorta.

League games and Elite Cup group stage games: if you happen to remember the minute the match stopped being coherent you can boot up another game and play the remaining minutes, starting from the last known legit score.

If none of the players caught a glimpse of the clock right upon the desynch you've got to play 2 halves if the match desynched during the 1st half and 1 half if the match stopped during the 2nd half (in both cases the last known legit score carries over to the new games).

Play-off/KO-rounds games: start over (same guidelines as League matches) and reinstate the goals difference between the teams (like, if you were 5-3 just score 2 own goals) before starting to play again.

Also, if a player got sent off during the desynched game they won't be allowed to play in the rebooted match, just remember to substitute them before entering the pitch.


You can still play with a "default" team (think of PES Master League starting team, just not as shitty) the staff will put together at the end of the first transfermarket window. There might be 4 to 6 "default" teams available, depending on the total number of participants.

The aforementioned teams will be deleted (and their players will thus return to free agency status) at the end of the 1st Session though (specifically, 7 days prior to the deadline cause you'd still need some time to play your matches), therefore you can join the current season up until a week from the 1st Session deadline.

Any later than that and you'll have to wait til the next season.


Great to hear that man!

Well done, Retri!

Eh be'...Direi che un ringraziamento solo non basta.
Mi sento quasi in imbarazzo dinanzi a questo lavorone.
Senza parole, veramente.

Mitico!!

Hi, I'm new here and I'm from Northern Ireland (UK).

If I read that right, I didn't realise that it isn't just a soccer managment but also playing against other teams with my own management team as well?

5 minutes halves is even better!

Anyhow, if I want to join up now, do I start off making my own custom team beforehand? Also the download link for swosit pack?

barnettgs ha scritto:
Yoyoyo, what a surprise!

Correct, mate.

Yes, mate. As soon as you join, we'll add your team to the Online Career panel and you can plunge into the transfer market.

You can download it here mate: www.swosit.com/sezione-download
What you need is SwosIT Pack 1.2 and Kickstart 3.1.
The kickstart needs to be placed in the Roms folder; this is the path: Start -> My pc -> C: -> SwosIT Folder -> Roms.

You will eventually have to update the HDF file; this is the path:
Start -> All the programs -> SwosIT Pack -> Update -> Aggiorna DB Stagione (click on "Accept") -> Another small window reading "Aggiornamento completato" pops up; click on "Accept".
Job done.

Please note that the emulator must not be run while performing the update.

Heh thanks.

Ok I will have to get a few things out of the way first and then put my head down in making my own team.

I will try to find out how it works by going in the career mode, does it has to be online or offlne?

After playing a few friendly games and spoken with an opponent last night, it was obvious to me, that my knowledge of players skills and their positions, is sorely lacking!

Got to start off somewhere.

I was trying to say that I haven't even touched the career in swos so I am going to play with it first, to try to get my head around it. So that I will understand it better to prepare myself for going online in September.