La community italiana di Sensible Soccer

Riporto qui un estratto della conversazione in cui spiega il suo attuale problema che non gli permette di giocare...se qualcuno avesse una soluzione...
"THIS IS A PART OF CONVERSATION WITH TRAMP WHERE HE EXPLAINS HIS ACTUAL PROBLEM THAT DOESNT ALLOW HIM TO PLAY... If ANYONE HAS A SOLUTION.......


[23:44] <tramp> which works, but only with a software program which maps the keys on the keyboard to a joystick
[23:44] <tramp> and it works for sensi.de but not for swosit.com
[23:44] <tramp> i tried with Dota
[23:44] <gabriNOplay> hmmhm
[23:44] <tramp> so, I am kind of stuck, unless i can find a way to get this to work or buy a new joystick
[23:44] <tramp> if i fail, i will have to play keyboard
[23:45] <tramp> but i don't want to because i will lose most games!!
[23:45] <gabriNOplay> sure
[23:45] <gabriNOplay> one thing
[23:45] <gabriNOplay> not understand:
[23:45] <gabriNOplay> you have a program that maps..?
[23:45] <tramp> yes haha
[23:45] <tramp> ok
[23:45] <tramp> so
[23:45] <tramp> the latest adapter the company sent me, it doesn't work correctly
[23:45] <tramp> up down left right etc
[23:46] <tramp> so, they told me i need to download this program called joytokey
[23:46] <tramp> and it maps the controls of a joystick with a keyboard. So, you can program joystick movements with the keyboard keys, right left up and down and enter for fire
[23:46] <tramp> so it works
[23:46] <tramp> you understand?
[23:47] <gabriNOplay> better
[23:47] <gabriNOplay> and you cant in swosit
[23:47] <tramp> exactly
[23:47] <tramp> i don't know why
[23:47] <gabriNOplay> joytokey run in .de
[23:48] <gabriNOplay> but not in swosit?
[23:48] <tramp> exactly
[23:48] <gabriNOplay> i ll ask any italian users now
[23:49] <tramp> i don't think they will be able to help
[23:49] <tramp> it's a complicated setup and i doubt anyone else will have the same setup
[23:49] <tramp> the main problem is why my usb joysticks and adapters keep failing, i would like to know why!!!
[23:49] <tramp> I have had 3 now all failed
[23:50] <gabriNOplay> maybe but i not understand why in .de yes and not in .IT
[23:50] <tramp> yeah me too, that's strange for me too
[23:50] <gabriNOplay> would you post a thread in swosit?
[23:51] <gabriNOplay> you use total pack?
[23:52] <tramp> i don't think anyone will be able to help though made
[23:52] <tramp> at the moment, all i can think of is that the laptop is 'surging' too much power and it is blowing the usb devices? I don't know
[23:52] <tramp> it's annoying because i don't want to stop playing!
[23:53] <gabriNOplay> you use total pack?
[23:53] <tramp> yeah
[23:53] <tramp> i just plug it in and it says "USB DEVICE NOT RECOGNISED"
[23:53] <tramp> but it's a windows/driver/hardware problem
[23:53] <tramp> the other problem is something with swosit.com but it will end up failing eventually i'm sure
[23:54] <tramp> I wonder if it was because when the Totalpack program crashes, or during desync and sometimes i have to end in Task Manager, I don't know if this is causing the problem I don't know

Non è proprio chiarissimo...
Comunque Joy2Key funziona senza problemi con il pack SwosIT, lo sta usando Mercs83 per "ribaltare" il suo joystick (lo usa ruotato di 180°).
L'unico accorgimento necessario è che bisogna impostare le direzioni non sulle frecce + ctrl (Keyboard Layout "B"), ma su 82465 del tastierino numerico (Keyboard Layout "A").
Ricapitolando:
Up > 8 numpad
Down > 2 numpad
Left > 4 numpad
Right > 6 numpad
Fire > 5 numpad

Questo però vale per trasformare gli input del joystick in equivalenti della tastiera, però. tramp all'inizio dice l'esatto opposto: "only with a software program which maps the keys on the keyboard to a joystick".

Se lo trovo in chat possiamo fare qualche prova in diretta. Su forum, in differita, impiegheremmo una valanga di tempo.

Hmm, if Tramp maps the keys on the keyboard to joystick using Joytokey program then he has to select the keyboard on swosit pack as if he plays with keyboard?

Basically, ss.de and swosit packs share the same 'Game and I/O Ports' so it shouldn't be that complicated.

Tramp has to map the joystick's inputs to keys on the keyboard as I wrote in my previous post (if I properly understood the problem).
Enter is not a valid key in game, only in menus, but I don't know if Total Pack works differently, though.

poco male se da solo non è capace gli si fa tramite team viewer, il fatto delle usb non riconosciute lo risolve da gestione periferiche la disinstalla e al reinstalla, gli si sarà incasinato qualcosa poco male cmq

RISOLTO (SOLVED) , thx atchoo!

L'adattatore di tramp è questo:



www.mayflash.com/Products/PCUSB/PC054.html

Pare che WinUAE Kaillera non lo "veda", può capitare con alcuni joypad/joystick/adattatori (quelli che, per le direzioni, utilizzano POV anziché AXIS), per cui bisogna per forza di cose utilizzare Joy2Key.

Alla fine l'adattatore più affidabile è sempre "il canadese": www.raphnet-tech.com/products/atari2usb/index.php

Si, Grazie Atchoo per il tuo aiuto.

Finalmente abbiamo trovato una configurazione che ha lavorato per SWOSIT. L'adattatore ha causato alcuni problemi, ma almeno funziona. L'originale conservato mostra "Dispositivo non riconosciuti", e disinstallazione e reinstallazione non aiuterebbe. E non c'era nessun driver da installare da Internet, solo plug and play. Spero che questo non va allo stesso modo! Ad ogni modo, grazie ancora per la vostra perseveranza Atchoo, ora sto aspettando con impazienza di giocare nel SWOS italiano!